People Want A Reality Show Where ‘Flat Earthers Search For The Edge Of The World’



The belief that the Earth is actually flat and that a shadowy world government tricks the public into believing in a globe-shaped planet has been increasing in recent times. Anyone would say that there is enough evidence that the Earth is spherical. However, and against all logic, there are more people who assert that our planet is in fact flat.

For example, the image known as “Earthrise” in which we can see our planet being a globe is one of the most popular images of Earth from outer space. In that image, we can clearly see that our planet is in fact a GLOBE. This is just one of the many images photographed by satellites ever since, proving that in fact, our planet is not flat.

Christine Garwood, author of “Flat Earth: The Story of an Infamous Idea” claims that it is “a fallacy of history” that everyone from Antiquity to Darkness believed that Earth was flat and that they were only disillusioned with that “crazy idea “when Christopher Columbus succeeded in reaching America” without falling on the edge of the world. ”

“With extraordinary few exceptions, no educated person in the history of Western civilization from the third century onwards believed that the Earth was flat,” said historian Jeffrey Burton Russell in 1997.

The eminent scientist Stephen Jay Gould wrote in the same year that “there was never a period of ‘flat earth obscurity’ among scholars. Greek knowledge of sphericity never disappeared and all medieval scholars accepted the roundness of the Earth as an established fact of cosmology.

“The Church says that the Earth is flat, but I know it is round because I saw its shadow on the Moon. And I have more faith in a shadow than in the Church.” –Fernando de Magallanes (1480-1521).

With the rise of scientific rationalism, which seemed to undermine the authority of the Bible, some Christian thinkers decided to launch an attack on established science. An English inventor named Samuel Birley Rowbotham (1816-1884) assumed the pseudonym “Parallax” and founded the new school of “Zetetic Astronomy” (meaning “skeptic”, from ancient Greek zētētikós, “inquisitive”).

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  1. FE Advocates have sent many weather balloons (with cameras attached) above the f. ozone layer and guess what? Earth is not only FLAT as a table for an discernible fact, but also MOTIONLESS with neither axial nor orbital motions to it, as you imagine the case to be out of DELUSION! This mentally primitive article of yours is just a shitty appeal to ridicule with no factual refutation of the reality everybody experiences, except for you, MINDLESS GOVT DRONE!

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    1. you seem to forget how small you are and how short your distances are that you use here. You are too small to have a perspective beyond your ignorance. Go further afield, YOU have to go many times higher than air is in order to see what it is you are looking at, and until you do go say 400 miles up, you will never have the perspective to see otherwise. You are TOO SMALL in your thinking.

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    2. Meanwhile, flat Earth folks are patiently waiting for motion to be detected, for curvature to be found, for the force of gravity to be measured.
      Most of all, we're waiting for globe believers to stop referencing composite art as legit photos. Even nasa admits they're faked. Why can't globers accept that?

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    3. Here's an idea, xyz: find me a legit photo of a tennis ball showing *all* of the surface, stitches, crap that stuck on it, everything. And No Compositing, you cheat!! -- I'll be waiting.

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    4. I... honestly can't tell if xyz is hilariously joking, terrifyingly uninformed, or unimaginably stupid. Either way, I'm laughing my ass off over here!

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    5. مـىىىـلــمـ حــنــىــڡ, please provide a single FE model that explains ALL of the following:

      a) The fact that the solar ecliptic (23.5°) and the lunar ecliptic (about 6°) are obviously not the same

      b) The tides

      c) The lunar eclipse

      d) The consistent angular diameter of the sun, regardless of location on Earth

      e) The phases of the moon, and specifically, the crescent moon, which can be on the top side of the moon, the bottom side, the left side, the right side, the upper-left quadrant, the upper-right quadrant, the lower-left quadrant, and the lower-right quadrant

      f) The sun and moon both appearing on the horizon when rising and setting

      g) The fact that as you gain altitude, you can see further (according to FE, distance viewing, even with a telescope, is limited by the atmosphere, yet I can get on a plane and see several hundred miles)

      h) The discrepancies (FE vs. GE) of distances and flight times between various international airports... Pythagorean should work perfectly on a flat earth, but in reality, it fails miserably, while the Haversine formula (aka the Great Circle formula, which is used in navigation consistently) works perfectly on a sphere, and fails miserably on the flat earth

      i) The stars in the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise around the southern celestial pole, while the stars in the northern hemisphere rotate anti-clockwise around the northern celestial pole

      j) The fact that sensitive scales must be re-calibrated when moved from one latitude to another (weight varies by 0.5% if the same calibration is used at the equator and in polar regions)

      k) Likewise, due to the Eötvös effect, objects are measurably lighter while in an eastward direction of travel, and measurably heavier while in a westward direction of travel

      l) The fact that, relative to a viewer in the northern hemisphere, the moon appears upside-down to a viewer in the southern hemisphere

      m) The fact that the sunrise terminator and the sunset terminator are 180° apart

      n) The Foucault pendulum

      o) The curve of the earth's shadow on the moon during a Lunar eclipse, which looks the same whether the moon is at the horizon or directly overhead (a flat Earth shadow should look flat at the horizon and only perfectly circular when the Moon is directly overhead)

      p) The sheer volume of photos and videos from the moon, satellites, space stations, etc (if these are merely art work, how large is the staff that's producing them?)

      q) The global cooperation between nations, since astronauts and space-bound scientists represent several countries (as well as religious backgrounds (or lack there of), political affiliations, etc)

      r) The fact that Neptune was discovered due solely upon the fact that it was perturbing the orbit of Uranus

      s) Surveyors measure short lines a few hundred meters long every day. The sum of the pair of reciprocal zenith angles on lines as short as only a few hundred meters is always greater than 180°, which indicates that the two vertical plumb lines at each end of the line are inclined away from each other by the same amount corresponding to the approximate difference in latitude and longitude between the two points

      t) The fact that the surface area of the Flat Earth is about 2.49 times that of the Globe Earth (490,873,852.12 sq. miles on the Flat Earth versus 196,936,409.99 sq. miles on the Globe Earth)

      u) The coriolis effect, which causes storms to swirl clockwise in the Southern hemisphere, counterclockwise in the Northern hemisphere, and also prevents these storms from crossing the equator

      Thank you.

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    6. Well..... oh yeah?

      Sorry, I didn't really see any FE advocates speaking up, so I decided to speak on their behalf.

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    7. You don’t need to get complex. How do you explain that when I let go of a helium balloon it goes UP? Where’s gravity?
      A. Doesn’t need an answer because it has nothing to do with FE
      B. why are there 2 or even 3 tides a day when the moon passes less
      C. Plenty of info online shows this
      D. Sun changes size for many reasons associated with atmos.
      E. Research online.
      F. Perspective and vanishing point
      G. You think you can see several hundred miles but have you scientifically measured it?
      H. Margins of error. Planes face head tail winds and variance due to stochastic events.
      I. Research online. Too long to explain.
      J. We don’t actually know yet. It’s a phenoninum that has some theories
      L. Seriously?!!! Look up at something on ceiling when stood slightly to north of it. Now stand slightly south of it. Notice how you have to turn around 180 to avoid bending head back. What happens to something when you turn 180 and look at it

      Sorry I can’t go on. Too many questions and they are inane. Look up the answers yourself

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    9. @Ian Webb, "Sorry I can’t go on. Too many questions and they are inane. Look up the answers yourself"

      This is simply not a good response. It is my understanding (perhaps misunderstanding) that FE advocates want to educate people. These 21 questions represent an opportunity for you to do that, and to do so in a compelling way, if you are able.

      Instead, you only addressed 10 questions at all, and of those 10 responses, three were some version of "look it up yourself."

      You only had two answers that actually addressed the original question and made any sense: F, and L

      This is why people who understand the scientific method can't take FE advocates seriously. You don't take the time to actually address valid points and make your case. I've watched hours of flat earth videos and read countless posts. They all boil down to explaining the conspiracy.

      Don't simply say, we have some theories...what are those theories?

      Don't simply say look it up...what is the answer? For those who have spent any time watching FE videos or reading FE sites, we've already tried to find your answers to these questions and to be honest, they are not out there...not as far as any of us can tell. So if you don't want to explain the answer, provide a link.

      The questions posed were thoughtful and specific. The poster clearly has a pretty thorough understanding of proofs for the globe. Your response demonstrates that you don't understand the model you champion and are unable to respond.

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    10. Marcus...I'm saving all of this science to use next time I am need of stumping a FE!

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    11. Loooolll "How do you explain that when I let go of a helium balloon it goes UP? Where’s gravity?" Im crying X'D hahaha helium is so much lighter than "air"( which consists mainly of nitrogen, oxigen and CO2) that it wants to float on top of it. Its the same as saying why does my ball float on water? Where is your gravity now? Hahaha now to tell you where our gravity comes in: have you ever heard of a helium baloon that didnt stop rising all the way into outer space? I dont think so... they are stopped by our ozone layer which is covering our globe and guess what created that and keeps it in place? Well... its my homie gravity ofc! Same awesome dude that makes sure we dont float into the air all the time. But ofc you think thats because the earth is flat and things can only fall off the edge of the world or if you maybe drill through it without being cooked by lava. Goodluck on your search for the end of the world ill be expecting a selfie with the guards at big ole icewall:D

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    12. Go to Heavens-above.com nd claim the gov. is God, sending billions of dollars across our skies just to pull off this global effect... And read up on more laws of physics and learn more about the times of times, back when we as a world went through the dark ages when we lost knowledge with the catastrophic events.. maybe you can even watch more Bill Nye or do some sight seeing. FE may have once been or maybe it was on its true axis where life was in a vegetative state where the Dinos roamed while we survived.. LOOK FAR BACK and stop fighting the ignorant fight. "Research online"


      omnis ratihabitio retrotrahitur et mandate priori aequiparatur
      Every ratification relates back and is equivalent to a prior authority
      Black's law dictionary. HENRY CAMPBELL BLACK, M. A.. 1990.

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    14. You do know that the position of Islam is that the Earth is in fact "around" , so why are you arguing against it "Muslim Hanif"? Even Ibn Taymiyya said it centuries ago: "It's is the conscensus of scholars that the earth if in facty round."

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    3. That moment you realize a large boat doesn't shrink to a dot on the horizon but appears to sink. Oh, and that other moment you realize a rising horizon illusion would put you in a measurable parabolic bowl where you would have to look up to see the horizon and a sinking ship. Yeah, something we don't see! Flat Earther geometry isn't the greatest, it isn't even coherent! Ugh those 32 arc seconds for the sun to dipping below the horizon must have their brains twisting in mathematical fallacies . LMAO

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  4. If there is a conspiracy to deceive us that the earth is round, then who benefits from it, how and why?

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    1. It's hard to believe anyone still asks this.
      Seriously, if you have to ask, you'll probably never know.

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    2. That answer is about as helpful as asking your wife why she is angry, and she replies, "If you don't know, I'm not going to tell you."

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    3. To understand why people have investigated the globe model and concluded it is false, you must understand how the opposition, ie. people who adhere to the spinning ball globe model, creates what are called "straw man arguments" in order to mischaracterize its opponents. A straw man argument is when you build a weak, or even completely false, arguments for your opposition then easily take them down. This article is based on such arguments that say what globe skeptics "believe", such as the myriad of cartoon photos that do not represent reality, but fantastical cosmologies that cannot be proven by any side. Thus, a very easy straw man to take down. By the way, the references to Western scientists that are pro-ball earth do, in now way shape or form, prove the earth is spinning at 1000 mph, or that ancient cultures did have similar ball-Earth theories. All the have is ridicule, which is not testing an idea through repeatable, scalable experiments.

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    4. Just read the responses, Jean Michael... you will see that the complete opposite is true, the only ones being dismissive are FE proponents! Whenever an advocate of the globe model asks for evidence as to why someone believes as they do, no evidence is ever provided, and if it is, it makes no logical sense. The questions asked by believers of the globe model are never answered by FE believers... because the questions cannot be answered rationally...

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    5. Here's an experiment you can conduct yourself... flush a toilet in the northern hemisphere and note that the water travels in a clockwork direction :P flush a toilet in the southern hemisphere and notice that the reverse is true... Another experiment! Put a stick in the ground and record the angular precession of the shadow that is cast by it from the Sun. Choose another location, at least 1 degree (on the globe model) from your original location... conduct the experiment again... it works better from North/South hemisphere again, but regardless, you will notice that the angles differ by for instance, 1 degree if that was how much you moved across the surface. It is possible to calculate the curvature through this simple method... & why is the shadow of the Earth on the moon curved? Or is that just another conspiracy? Because excuse me for saying, but can you not see why that's a bit of a stretch, for a logical person?

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    6. Ask him why ships going over the horizon do not rather shrink into a dot at the horizon line.. LMOA. Ask him if he understands geometry or why he would have to look up to see a sinking ship effect under a Flat Earth Model that suggests a rising horizon illusion to give the appearance of a sinking ship. Worse still ask him how this same effect doesn't effect the ship and just the horizon lol .

      Alex, these people are morons... They are a cult that profits off ignorance. They are typically science illiterate to the point that they can't even understand how a prism refutes their bending light claims. They can't even understand the basics of Snell's law. They are intellectually inept.

      "in order to mischaracterize its opponents"

      Oh we aren't, we are deadly accurate with our characterizing of your ilk.

      "A straw man argument is when you build a weak, or even completely false, arguments for your opposition then easily take them down"

      Oh the IRONY!

      "but fantastical cosmologies that cannot be proven by any side."

      Oh we don't go by "proven", we go by a body of evidence and understanding things like basic geometry lol. The body of evidence is not in your favor, and your professional victimhood fallacy does not lend you credibility.

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    7. They had a very good example of the "ship and the horizon" in the excellent pirate TV series "Black Sails". In one episode, the pirate ship "leaves" the islands but actually only goes just under the horizon to a distance where they can send a man to the top of the tallest main mast, and observe the port they left. However from that distance the soldiers in the port could not see the ship itself and assumed it had "gone" as they could no longer see it. It was a great example of this simple scientific FACT of the curve of the Earth.

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  5. I think GLOBE believers should have a reality show in this way, I want to see them do a NORTH to SOUTH full circumference navigation... then also shoot straight into space in a 24/7 live mode, no messing with live feeding. And also, I have to shout out flatuniversity.com on this!

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    1. Exactly. Put globers out there to substantiate their claims.

      Flat Earth proves itself.

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    2. http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/first-circumnavigation-via-both-poles-surface

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    3. Mark, they'll just say it's a lie. If you made a group of them fly around the world pole to pole they'd say it was cgi or they'd been drugged or hypnotised. They demonstrate the most powerful cognitive dissonance that you will encounter anywhere. They claim that those of us who have actually observed real repeatable experiments which prove irrefutably that the earth is a spinning globe are brainwashed yet they accept blatantly ridiculous YouTube videos as proof of their mad ideas. Might as well try to cure cancer by telling it to go away.

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    5. People have been doing circumnavigations of the globe for thousands of years and have shot satellites, space crafts, and people into space for the last 70 years...have you ever picked up a book in your life let alone know anything about how physics work? Or is that a myth too lmao

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    6. Really strange how the sun rises for the folks I work with in India while it is setting for me in the U.S.. Trying to figure that one out... Also just a little curious what is under the flat earth?

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    7. Completely agree Clive... full globe circumnavigations have been conducted many times in the past, but whatever evidence you present to someone so firmly attached to their irrational beliefs will be completely ignored, so it makes no difference!

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    8. What's under the flat earth? Why, the flying spaghetti monster of course. What a silly question.

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  6. I say let them have their race but make it like The Amazing Race in its format. At each location, the contestants have to complete either a physics lab problem or an astrophysics plot. Maybe the fools will have an epiphany and actually learn something.

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    1. In the case of flat Earth, those you call "fools" have figured out something you've yet to understand.
      The need for epiphany is yours.

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    2. xyz I doubt you've figured out how to tie your own shoe laces. Give me the flat earth explanation for the repeatable observable behaviour of Foucault's Pendulum. Have you ever actually seen a Foucault's Pendulum?

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  7. If you want a cast with a collective IQ lower than a glass of milk, this is the show for you!

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  8. It really isn’t healthy to entertain the delusion that literally everything in life is part of a conspiracy against you. I knew a flat earther and the psychology of said individual was sadly telling, deep insecurity and self-esteem issues manifested as arrogance and hubris. Judging by the nature of replies on threads like this it would seem plausible that these are common traits of the conspiracy theorist.
    The appeal of FE would seem to be in attaining a sense of community and status online which may be missing in everyday life and, to those who may have struggled academically it’s a chance to finally say “I know something YOU don’t” to those deemed by society to be of higher status (teachers, scientists, intellectuals, authority figures etc.)
    The only motive I can ascertain to justify the (impossible) amount of resources and security it would take to sustain a lie of this magnitude would be religious ie, the ‘central’ role of humanity being somehow sidelined. That the vast majority of theologists and religious fundamentalists also reject FE doesn’t appear to dent this theory, or the fact that the shape of the planet is simply irrelevant to most people - you still have to go to work and pay your bills regardless of geology. If everyone on the planet believed it was flat it wouldn't change a thing - so why bother?

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  9. Everybody knows: Earth is both flat and hollow, and made out of cheese – in North Korea, btw.

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  10. And these people how can explain the difference in the hour and the sun relative position in different latitudes? Poor ignorant people. Like religious fanatics they want to believe.

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  11. We could dump flat-earthers in a boat in the Pacific and challenge them to sail back to land using their flat-earth maps.

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  12. Are the flat earthers here being funny? Or do you actually believe this rubbish? I hope its the latter. That'd be hilarious.

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  13. Are you seriously arguing in this article that the Church promoted the idea of a flat Earth??? Is it really so difficult for 'people of science' to look up basic history and realise the Church WAS NOT promoting flat Earth theory but rather supported scientific inquiry. When you said 'any educated person knew it was round', guess what, Church people were the most educated people for a very very very long time. This is precisely the kind of biased and dishonest bull that is driving people away from 'science' people towards insane theories in the first place. Also please do not ever mention that a Catholic priest came up with the Big Bang theory and that some very great scientists of the time opposed the theory and claimed it was wrong. UGH, PEOPLE, STOP PERPETUATING THE 'DARK AGES' MYTH.

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    1. The Catholic Church,in 1600, burnt Giordano Bruno at the stake for claiming the universe was full of stars just like the sun and that the Earth was not the center of the universe. Religion has nothing to do with Science. Religion is blind belief at best and ignorant superstition at worst.

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    2. Giordano Bruno, a Dominican priest, was burnt at the stake for his theological heresy. An outrageous, but not an anti-science, act

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    3. The Heliocentric theory and the flat earth theory are not the same. Just because the official stance of the Church for some time was heliocentric doesn't mean they thought the Earth was flat. You can believe the sun orbits the Earth without thinking the Earth is flat.

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    4. Soundwave is substantially correct here. Although I'm no fan of the Roman Catholic church, most of the "Dark Ages" myth was generated by Protestants and agnostics trying to impugn their opponents by creating false stories about the past. (Much as this article perpetuates the false Magellan "quote" seen above.)
      Bad history is no antidote for bad science. It just gives the loonies a chance to say "See, you're wrong there!"

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  14. Jean De Notre Dame aka Nostradamus Here !
    Yes the earth is flat and always been , the reason no one come forward with it is simply due to the fact they met their demise by falling out , we are now erecting a wall .
    The world is about to end as the birth rate in China and Asia is causing a gravity shift
    This in return due to gravity cause their Pollution to move o the west , by doing so damage the ozone and create warming , mostly due in the west because it is not something patented and they can copy and flood the market with .
    This administration is attempting to correct the issue by imposing tare if on import of product we created which they resell to us due to the fact it is too much work to produce ...
    Ok flat earthen they sell lithium on the net a td of it will correct your chemistry !

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    1. I am officially done with this article. I can't look at this anymore. Where are any of these theories based? Please read up on physics and fix everything you just said.

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  15. To understand why people have investigated the globe model and concluded it is false, you must understand how the opposition, ie. people who adhere to the spinning ball globe model, creates what are called "straw man arguments" in order to mischaracterize its opponents. A straw man argument is when you build a weak, or even completely false, arguments for your opposition then easily take them down. This article is based on such arguments that say what globe skeptics "believe", such as the myriad of cartoon photos that do not represent reality, but fantastical cosmologies that cannot be proven by any side. Thus, a very easy straw man to take down. By the way, the references to Western scientists that are pro-ball earth do, in now way shape or form, prove the earth is spinning at 1000 mph, or that ancient cultures did have similar ball-Earth theories. All the have is ridicule, which is not testing an idea through repeatable, scalable experiments.

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    1. so here's a hemp-humanoid for you and your kind JM...

      Ok, lets assume for a moment that the earth is flat
      At perfect rest - at the centre of the universe
      And all of the celestial / heavenly bodies move "above" the earth ...

      I challenge you to present your alternate model for solar/lunar motion which better describes and predicts all of the observable phenomena :
      Include all of the diameters/distances/dimensions and the equations of motion


      How do you explain:
      - Sunrise (sun below the horizon rising into the sky)
      - daylight (sun sweeping an arc across the sky - which varies in height and breadth, depending on location to give 0 hours of daylight at the NorthPole/MiddlePoint, 12 hours of daylight at the Equator/annulus, 24 hours of daylight at the SouthPole/perimeter simultaneously)
      - Sunset (sun dropping below the horizon)
      - Nighttime during which the moon (which also exhibits daily rising and setting not synchronized with the sun) traces arcs across the sky which do not depend on the season while displaying phase changes from full to new and back to full again...
      -Eclipses during which the moon, whose apparent angular size is exactly the same as the sun, align precisely such that the main body of the sun is blocked
      - Rotating starfield - centred on Polaris for points inside the equator-annulus (North) and rotating in the opposite direction outside the equator-annulus (South)

      All of these phenomena were figured out thousands of years ago long before NASAs "lies" and are perfectly explained by the conventional spheroid Earth spinning on an inclined axis in an elliptical orbit around the sun with the Moon in a phase-locked equatorial orbit around the Earth

      To explain all of these ordinary phenomena visible to people all over the Earth, the onus is on FEers to falsify the conventional model and show that their/your FE model is superior - in every way - at predicting and explaining all these phenomena



      Relying on the explanations of others for effects at scales beyond their capacity to imagine clearly and explain correctly, including the optical effects of atmospheric refraction/lensing is an error.
      If the Earth is "flat" and its oceans and seas and lakes are indeed all perfectly planar, what is the explanation for the first-appearance of the top tip of the mast/funnel of a ship followed by more and more of the structures appearing downward until at last the entire vessel is visible.
      Of course, this happens under "ideal" conditions.
      At other time the rising above the horizon is distorted by refraction and atmospheric lensing due to the varying speed of light in air of various temperatures and humidities...

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  16. even if you take them into space they will tell you what they are seeing is fake and an oled screen instead of a window , they will base this on the fact if it was true they should be able to open a window just like in a house and breath the fresh air .... 30 miles in space , come to think of it can we simply launch them all in space and give them a parachute so when they com back nice and toasted they can prove their case .....

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  17. And the idiot flat earthers appear in droves.

    YOU IDIOTS ARE MORONS, AND TOO STUPID FOR ME TO BOTHER ARGUING WITH, SO PLEASE, DON'T EVEN TRY.
    I refuse to lose brain cells with you ignoramus dimwits.

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  18. I can't believe that you people still cling to the idea of a flat Earth. It's obviously round, because it's hollow - and that's where the lizard men of Anuk-Ta come from. I read about it. In a book. Fools.

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  19. All I would say is there are arguments for both, all of which could be valid but unless there is definitive proof either way, then the argument will continue. I cant rule out either so will remain impartial!

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    1. I don't know how many different ways people can tell you there is definitive proof the earth is round before it finally sinks in. Go hit your head against a brick wall really hard. Maybe you'll think better.

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    2. As someone also named Phil, I can assure you [with the only kind of assurance another Phil can] that I personally have conducted the Sears tower experiment, and it illustrated the globular fact for under $10. I think it costs more now. Also in Chicago, I was able to see with my own eyes, and confirm that the folks standing near me also saw the same thing: At the big science museum on the lake, they have giant pendulum which was displaying evidence of the coriolis effect. I could SEE it [plus I understood how the effect was made visible, aka high school physics]. Then again I have traveled to the southern hemisphere, where I, a guy named Phil, SAW water going down the drains the 'wrong' way [coriolis effect again]. Within the last 10 years they released the best gravity map of the planet yet, showing anomalies all over, including a big one in Antarctica.

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    3. The idea that water swirls down the drain in opposite directions in the northern and southern hemispheres is a myth (look it up, there is roughly a 50/50 chasnce of the watergoing clockwise vs. counter-clockwise regardless of which hemisphere you're in and no matter how close to either of the poles either), so maybe not the best of examples to use.

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    4. But the stars are all different in the Southern Hemisphere and they go the other way around the sky so that's another simple proof that's repeatable and observable.

      Anyone with a basic education in maths and physics will be able to find a mountain of definitive proof that the earth is a spinning globe and absolutely zero for the flat earth. There should be a bit of a clue in that. Anyone who can't rule out FE is pretty much dumb enough to get sucked into the scam or already is and is lying.

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  20. Here's a possible title for the show: "Flatearther's Go Lemmings -- Stupidity and Ignorance Falling Off The Rim For Good"

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  21. Flat Earthers... *sighs*
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  22. It's my understanding that at it's core, flat earth theory is contrived from a literal interpretation of the king james version of the bibles' genesis creation story...I'm reasonably certain it's just a new angle for witnessing by attempting to dazzle the skeptical, yet gullible, with pseudo-science since the traditional method doesn't stand up to modern day cynicism anymore...

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    1. The King James Bible, as every other version of the Bible including the Jewish Tanakh, does not mention the shape of the earth. So your understanding is flawed.

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    2. Isaiah 11:12: and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth...

      Revelation 7:1: And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth...

      I'm sure there is also one ion Genesis, where god placed a beast at each of hte 4 corners of the earth as guards, but I can'st seem to find it just now...

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    3. Although it may be your "understanding", it's not actually true. But people often believe false things because they reinforce their prejudices and doing the research needed to approach the truth is time consuming.
      Consider actually looking up Samuel Rowbotham (a utopian socialist snake-oil salesman) to get a bit of insight into the actual development of modern flat-earthism.

      It was, and still is, a mixture of charlatans and trolls (and a few gullible and vulnerable souls who need more pity than scorn.)

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  23. I was a military pilot for 25 years. I never once saw a wall of ice, never once saw the world as flat and had to navigate over huge distances using 'great circles' because the thing i was flying over was.......round. If i had found a wall of ice I would have been first to try and fly past it into nothing. Why couldn't I? can a flat Earther tell me? Why couldn't I point my aircraft over the big ice wall and just keep going? It is a bit of a show stopper really isn't it?

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    1. There's no such thing as airplanes. If there were, it would have been mentioned in the Bible. You're clearly just a shill for Big Sphere.

      /s

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    2. I wonder if the comment about aeroplanes is satire or clever irony?

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    3. But you're in the military and so clearly one of *them* spreading misinformation. "Big Sphere" ha ha!

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    4. Yeah that's right. Convenient isn't it that everyone in the military is 'one of them'. That's just what I joined up for so that I could learn the biggest secret on the planet and then never tell anyone. Jeez, the Bradley Mannings of the world can't keep much secret so what chance that just one person out of every military organisation in the world wouldn't 'spill the beans'. I guess all commercial airline pilots are "one of them" also? The thing is cateK6 everyone just makes it up as they go along. Seriously can some flat farther explain why I can't fly out over the edge of the 'ice wall'. Why can't I do that if the earth is flat?

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  24. Could there also be a reality show for those folks in North Carolina who refuse to use solar power in case the sun loses all of its energy?

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    1. Solar power isn't cost effective. By the time panels pay off, they need to be replaced. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. But, until the price trends become better, anyone spending on solar is a fool who's bad at math.

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  25. I really don't give an f... is the earth globe or flat. The facts are:
    -that ALL images of earth that we see are CGI's(computer generated images)
    -we have been taught in school that earth has a little bit bigger diameter around the equator than around poles yet recent CGI's showing that is actually geoid-more like a potato than a perfect ball that we're seeing as "photos from space". That being said geoid CGI's showing earth with bigger diameter around the poles than around the equator which contradicts the "facts" they taught us earlier.
    -moon strangely faces earth with one side (and the how the other side look like only "Pink Floyd" know) and I see, it's round, but if everything in space spins around itself how come that the nearest object doesn't match that. Round may not necessarily be ball but frying pan...

    Considering all that I simply DON'T know what is the truth and whatever is it doesn't affect me anyway...

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    1. All images? Even the photos that were taken long before computers were capable of generating photorealistic imagery? Have you the proof of this?

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    2. nerikull Proof? They don't need no stinking proof, proof is for pussies. All they need is someone on YouTube to say it's so and as far as they're concerned then it must be so.

      Not for them the arduous task of performing some simple repeatable observable experiment like Foucault's Pendulum and then finding an explanation which doesn't involve a rotating sphere. Not for them to explain how buoyancy works without gravity. Not for them to explain why all the measurements we know to be true of countries and continents can only fit onto a sphere. No, they just need some drugged up nut job to tell them that the earth is flat, it's good to drink piss and the royal family are lizard beings from another planet & they're off for a glass of fresh piss while they bang nonsense on youtube

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    3. www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/nasa-releases-first-picture-of-the-whole-earth-taken-in-43-years-10403944.html

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    4. The moon is in tidal lock with the earth You are a few billion years too late to see it rotate

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  26. This entire comment section needs to be cleansed with fire.

    There's no reason for any government to make people believe the earth is round if it isn't.

    There's no compelling actually scientific argument proving the earth is flat.

    End of. I'm pretty sure at least some of the folks here are trolling to see how many stupid people they can get onto their bandwagon because their senses of humor have been desensitized and they need something new to laugh at.

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  27. In fact the earth is of course spherical. not round which is in itself two dimensional. Just being a pedant of course but there is a good reason her to be a pedant. :)

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  28. Given that we're all living in a simulation anyway it would make much more sense to build a simulated globe. Otherwise you'd get to the end and it would all turn into wire frame, like in The Thirteenth Floor.

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    1. We are all just datapoints in a cosmic computer game played by a malignant child

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  29. Next, you're going to tell me the Russians interfered in our elections. As if!

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  30. So out of the Billions of stars and planets that are in space, 99.9% are sphere, and .1% is a flat Earth.. Tell me how this makes sense. Are we saying that the Earth is the only flat planet in existence and physics will be ignored... BTW in the weightless expanse of the vacuum of space liquid tends to ball up due to liquids surface tension. This is way everything in space is a ball of stuff.. Earth is a ball of stuff...

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  31. Flat earth was a 4 chan joke, not unlike the charging of your iPhone in the microwave. However, that being said, there should be millions of pictures of earth from space of which there are very few, and those look contrived. Most of the pics of their earth are nothing more than artwork. I think this is exactly why people push the flat earth nonsense, to try and discourage anyone else questioning anything from NASA. I mean really, the only thing this article posts is artwork from photoshop.

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  32. What if Flat Earthers are actually government conspirators designed to fluster our scientific community and force logical thinkers to be distracted. Maybe the entire point is to distract from more important subjects as our scientists try ONE MORE TIME to patiently explain basic theories to government paid shills???!!!

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    1. Research for yourself before you mock. Maybe you will wake up....js

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  33. There are many things wrong in this article...I will only point out the the first... You say we can see that Earth is a globe from space... You prove the point that people believe without question.. Anything we are taught in school or told by the govt. Where in fact we have NO pictures of Earth. They admit it's called photos and always have been... Research that and you will want to know more. ALL THE THEORIES ABOUT GRAVITY.. SPACE.. PLANETS... EARTH... SOLAR SYSTEM... HAVE BEEN GUESSED AND THEY HAVE NO PROOF. NASA ACTUALLY ADMITS THAT WE'VE NEVER MADE IT OUT OF INNER ATMOSPHERE AND THEY CAN'T FIND THE TRAJECTORY INFORMATION WHERE THEY SUPPOSEDLY WENT TO THE MOON. AND SO MUCH MORE!
    THANK YOU

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    1. They took a full Earth photo from the moon using a Hasselblad camera, on film, before CGI existed. If NASA’s images aren’t good enough for you, the Japanese satellite himawari 8 takes a full Earth image (not a composite) every ten minutes. The images are 11,000 pixel square- so detailed that you can go outside and confirm the cloud formations right above your thick head, practically in real time. That’s some conspiracy, to generate an image of the Earth with accurate cloud formations every ten minutes.

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  34. A sketch from Chris Morris' surreal, dark comedy 'Jam' that just about some up every flat earth comment on this thread.

    https://youtu.be/kGex0kLgNok

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  35. Ian Webb is obviously a devout Globe Earth Defender! His Humrously silly F.E. answers are specifically so formulated to make any Flat Earther hide in shame. . . or be instantly converted to become a Globe Earth Believer! :-)



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  36. I keep wondering how Flat Earthers know how the other side of the Flat Earth looks like. . . .That the other side is like The Himalaya Region is obviously not correct. . .if it was then the Earth would not be FLAT. Obviously the Real Flat Earth is no more tha n 4 @ 5km thick under Mount Everest and only 3 km thick in The Flatland The Netherlands. That the Mariana Trench is 11 km deep is a blatant Lie. . .We are planning to drill a hole through the Earth's Crusts here and the after that put the Drill String back with a Camera on its End. . .A camera that can rotate 370 degrees. . , so as as to get a 10-degree overlap so we can see everything that is there. . . .We think on the other side there live peope too. . . .

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    1. Wait, did you just say that there's other people, living on the other side of the earth? Funny, because that's precisely what you get if the earth is a sphere.

      But don't take my word for it. You seem ambitious, so I propose a test: make some friends in Australia or the UK. Fly out there. Chat it up, see some sights. Then phone home and see what time it is. If the people you love and respect and trust tell you it's late at night when you can see the sun, you'll have to do some rework on your theory.

      Set up a webcam on a secure encrypted VPN and a very secure passcode, and see whether it's day or night at the same time in the UK or Australia as it is back home.

      Do that, and come back and tell us the results. I quadruple-dog dare you.

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  37. I most certainly wouldn't call that show a "reality" show :D Anyway, why waste a whole lot of money on a bunch of half-literate morons who think they can get an education from YouTube, Alex Jones or the like?

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    1. Oh no, the reality would be the crushing realization that they've been living a lie for a very long time. And that would kinda be hilarious, if they've been assholes about it. I wouldn't want to see someone who is ignorant but otherwise a well-meaning sweetheart on the show, but some of these arrogant idiots deserve to have that kind of entertaining public shaming.

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  38. FEer here ^^ I would love to prove my theory that Earth is FLAT from ISS. Minimum 1y observation is required.

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    1. If the earth is flat then there is no International Space Station. According to you lot, we've never made it out of the atmospher...

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  39. The Earth wasn't always Flat. But is is now because there are some many people standing on it.

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  40. It's not worth arguing about. 99%+ of the world understands the reality of a round earth. Engaging the miniscule FE minority in a discussion just gives them more acknowledgement than is deserved. Ignore the ignorant.

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  41. This is a joke, right? Seriously no one possibly thinks the world is flat I thought this might be an Onion parody but it's not They must be saying that for attention as mass hysteria doesn't seem to fit The FEers seem to write fairly coherently so they must have some education You would have to ignore so many things to believe that you would have to know you were doing that I don’t believe anyone outside an asylum truly thinks the earth is flat

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  42. Go to Heavens-above.com nd claim the gov. is God, sending billions of dollars across our skies just to pull off this global effect... And read up on more laws of physics and learn more about the times of times, back when we as a world went through the dark ages when we lost knowledge with the catastrophic events.. maybe you can even watch more Bill Nye or do some sight seeing. FE may have once been or maybe it was on its true axis where life was in a vegetative state where the Dinos roamed while we survived.. LOOK FAR BACK and stop fighting the ignorant fight. "Research online"


    omnis ratihabitio retrotrahitur et mandate priori aequiparatur
    Every ratification relates back and is equivalent to a prior authority
    Black's law dictionary. HENRY CAMPBELL BLACK, M. A.. 1990.

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  43. OK, please explain to me, FE supporters:
    I am in Australia. I have repeatedly spoken to friends in the USA and England, when it's the middle of the night here, and daytime there. If the Earth is a flat plane, with the sun "above" it, then why isn't everywhere light at once? And how can I see a different star field to those in the northern hemisphere? No matter how good my telescope, I can't see Polaris.
    And who benefits from convincing people the Earth is a globe if it is not? Who gains?

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    1. Flat Earth is hidden to hide the existence of Jesus. If the world is found out to be flat, all of its details are in the Bible so it would prove the Scriptures to be real which means Jesus is also real and they will never admit to that. Psalms 93:1 the earth cannot move. Flat Earth has a firmament dome over it Genesis 1:6-8 which means no fake alien invasion like the one that’s coming soon to cause people to believe they come from alien seed and not from the seed of Adam [the man] who is the son of the living God Jesus The Father. Isaiah 40:22 (ISV) He's the one who sits above the disk of the earth, Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds,Isaiah 48:13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, Job 38: 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? With a foundation we can’t be orbiting anything.1 Chronicles 16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds, Antarctica is the ice wall that surrounds the flat earth. That’s why the military guards it.Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, sun and moon orbit the earth. 1 Samuel 2:8pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and on them he has set the world. We don’t fly through space. Jesus is real. This is why they hide flat earth.

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    2. John, why invent stuff to try and force your personal reality to conform to a 2000 year-old book when you can right now, today, put a high-powered camera on a helium balloon and completely fail to see even Mt. Everest from high up, which should be a very easy feat if the earth truly was flat. After all, light continues on forever in no atmosphere, and at the level the balloons can get these days plus how thin the air is at the highest mountains, photographing them should be the easiest thing in the world if the earth truly was flat. Everest is usually well above the clouds, after all. So go, do the thing, and collect your Nobel prize. Or, go find a helpful psychiatrist when you do the thing and realize you can't see further than 281.7 miles to the horizon line in any direction, even from 10 miles up. Hell, even from 20 miles up, you can only see just under 400 miles to the horizon line.

      ***Don't take my word for it.***

      Save up, run the experiment, and find out for yourself. I triple-dog dare you.

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